The RPs Debate Presidential Leadership: Rod Jetton Rebuts

Rebuttal #3: Rod Jetton

John Y’s post was deep. All the psychological stuff is a bit too touchy feely for this Marine. I don’t know if he was a psychology minor in college or if his wife has him watching too many chick flicks.  Either way, it was too deep for me.  But as I think back to comments from the important women in my life, maybe I need to learn from John Y. or watch more chick flicks.

That being said, I agree with the RP and think analyzing Romney’s problems with Republican voters is much easier.  I ran Romney’s 2008 Missouri campaign and I’m still pulling for him, but he has two basic problems.

First, he is a Mormon. I know it’s not politically correct (PC) to admit that a candidate’s religion can hurt them, but reality pays no attention to PC.  There are many evangelicals who have a major problem with Mormons.  They like the family values, but they have a serious mistrust of the Mormon faith. Evangelicals are a important part of most Republican primaries. Iowa is a good example both in 2004 and 2008.

His second problem are his flip flops. Politics is a crazy business and most successful politicians massage their views depending on the situation or audience. The Internet has made it harder than it used to be, but each week we hear about some comment a politician made at a fundraiser or event that rubs the other party and Independents the wrong way.

Romney’s problem is he has changed his mind on some really important and big issues for Republicans. The top 2 are probably abortion and gun control, but the health care issue ranks up at the top as well.

Most realistic political observers realizes that to win a Governor’s race in Massachusetts as a Republican, a candidate has to be a bit more moderate. But we all know that the most hardcore primary voters in each party are anything but realistic. When running for Governor, Romney took some moderate stands that helped him win and later govern. That was then, but the presidential primary is now, and those past views are not helpful today.

The flip flops allow conservative Republicans who already have concerns about Romney’s faith to justify distrusting him. I know this because I talked to hundreds of them 4 years ago.

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The RPs Debate Presidential Leadership: Ron Granieri Rebuts

Rebuttal #2: Ronald J. Granieri

I have a few somewhat related thoughts in response to what has been said so far.

[Read John Y.’s Provocation]

[Read the RP’s Rebuttal]

We need to fight against the persistent myth that being universally respected and loved is the essence of leadership. Obama’s real or feigned belief that he could triumph over all disagreement and be adored by being adorable was doomed from the start. Doomed for the simple reason that making policy means dealing with disagreement. We all want to believe that the positions we take on issues are so self-evidently reasonable that any honest and rational person HAS to agree with us. But that is just a convenient and comforting fiction. More than that, it is also a backhanded way to belittle and insult people who think differently than we do by dismissing them as either stupid or mean-spirited or both.

There are many possible answers to any policy question, and (at the risk of sounding more like a relativist than I am) many of them can be right at the moment. Only in retrospect can we say for certainty what worked and what did not. In the meantime, we will disagree. And that is a good thing, because disagreement is the life blood of a competitive electoral system. It is pure folly to believe that you will get your way because your opponents like you. You get your way by taking clear positions and defending them within the existing system. (Though of course the system itself needs to function properly—that’s my shout out to No Lablesl!) You need to show what you believe, and what you are willing to do in pursuit of those beliefs, not wait for other people to agree with you before you take a position. Your opponents will criticize you no matter what you do (they will call you weak when you defer, and arrogant when you push forward), so why surrender pre-emptively? It is risky to take positions, but there is no reward without risk. True leaders take risks.

This myth of being universally loved is fostered by the hagiographies that come after a famous politician dies. The best example here is President Reagan. Upon his death all we have heard is how terrific he was, and both media personalities and politicians of all stripes have downplayed the controversies of the Reagan era. Frankly, that is an insult to his memory and to anyone with actual historical sense. For all his sunny optimism, Reagan was intensely controversial, and neither his fans nor his detractors do him justice by pretending he was not. Indeed, his opponents often hated him most of all because he was so goddam genial. He pushed hard for things he wanted, made compromises when he thought it made sense to do so, but he did not shy away from decisions in hopes that his opponents would agree with him before he made a move. Anyone who lived through the 1980s knows what the political debates of those years were like.

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Jeff Smith: Iowa a Win, Loss, or Draw for Romney?

Romney’s still the frontrunner, but it doesn’t feel nearly as good as a tie for first should’ve felt for him.

Santorum has a window here. As has always been the case, Romney is in deep trouble in a two- or three-way race, assuming one of the others is Paul and the third is a strong social conservative. Perry and Bachmann will drop out before New Hampshire, I think. Perry made sure that 2/3 to 3/4 of their votes don’t go to Romney or Paul; they go to Santorum or Newt. But since AngryNewt will be running a kamikazi mission to damage Romney, not many will go to him.

A couple other side notes: the Santorum working-class contrast vs. the Mitt/Bain “guy who laid you off” could be effective in the battle for votes in what is, at the rank-and-file level, a largely downscale party.

Finally, Huntsman’s mini-boomlet in New Hampshire combined with Paul’s continued strength could deny Romney the big New Hampshire that the press has already discounted.
So, Santorum has a shot here. He needs to do a few things: 1) find the best online fundraising team in Republican politics and sign them up; 2) Convince a few national conservative leaders to step up this week and try to unite conservatives nationally around him which means coaxing Bachmann out if she won’t decide herself; 3) Make sure he gets on the ballot everywhere and avoids Newt-like logistical screw-ups; and 4) Soft-pedal New Hampshire and focus on South Carolina; the Mormon issue is not going away in the Deep South.

All in all, the night couldn’t have gone much better for Santorum, and the most important piece of it was Perry all but announcing his departure.

(Cross-posted, with permission of the author, from Politico’s Arena)

 

The RP’s BREAKING News: The Politics of Wellness

If a total stranger asks for your help, how likely are you to assist them? New behavioral research shows that a person’s humility is a major factor in determining if they will help others. [Time]

The RPs Debate Presidential Leadership: The RP Rebuts

Rebuttal #1: The RP 

John Y.’s provocative piece had me ruminating for hours.  Probably as much as when I first watched that particular episode of The Sopranos — one reason why it’s my favorite television series of all time.

Then, in a telling irony (Mrs. RP assures me that there are no coincidences), I clicked on an email from my rabbi who was sharing with his congregants his thoughts about this week’s Haftorah portion (readings from the Prophets that amplify the Torah portion from that particular week).

To quote Rabbi Klein directly:

This final Torah portion [from the Book of Genesis] deals with the end of the patriarchy and creation of a nation. This final Haftarah seems to tell the same tale in a different generation, but its subtle and difficult side message cannot go unnoticed and unexamined.

On his death bed, the wise and beloved King David admonishes his son Solomon (whose ascension to the throne was not intended), to make killing all of David’s enemies his first royal act. “I go the way of all the earth; you shall be strong, therefore, and show yourself a man (1 Kings 2:2). To show himself a man, Solomon must remember the people who wronged David and kill them. And the descriptions of these deaths are violent. “And you shall do according to your wisdom, and do not let his hoary head go down to the grave in peace (2:6).

The very same message — from King David to Tony Soprano.  Literally, from the sacred to the profane.

And certainly, it was a lesson taught many millions of years before Biblical times. Among the animal kingdom in the wild, the survival of the fittest is not merely a metaphor. The alpha dog (or lion, or dinosaur, yadda, yadda, yadda) is the one who demonstrates the greatest strength, often at the expense of the weaker members of the tribe.  Even in today’s modern culture, our evolutionary instincts remain ever-present.

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The RPs Debate: Presidential Leadership — John Y Provokes

Today, we launch a new feature at The Recovering Politician: The RPs Debate.  In this format, one of our contributors will make a provocative post, and others will jump in with their responses.  We will publish a new response every half hour. If you like it, we’ll try it again soon.  If not, at least some of us had a fun weekend arguing.

The Provocateur: John Y. Brown, III

When women kiss it always reminds me of prize fighters shaking hands. — HL Mencken.

I thought of this quote watching the Iowa presidential primary returns last week. I was thinking about the basic competitiveness among the men and women–with their own sex.

That quote made me laugh when I read if for the first time as a college student because, as a guy, I was just starting to notice that women were often more competitive than they seemed. Of course, women know this all along but young men– who tend only to notice round objects that can be thrown or resemble the shape of a sandwich or remote control — often miss subtler body language.

Fast forward another 20 years, and I begin to notice the subtler competitiveness among men. Oh, I suppose I always sensed it but never paid full attention to it — until recently. The put down, the standing slightly taller, the one upsmanship stories, the sarcastic joke that makes you a bad sport if you don’t laugh at yourself But there is another level…that is more concerning and more important among men. Fear of being replaced by a younger man….that mixes envy and fear and pride. The mature man becomes generative….a mentor. He accepts his new role with gusto and doesn’t try anymore to win foot races against younger men but to help coach him and teach him not only how to run faster but to be a better man, husband and father. Women, of course, experience this too but I’ve been thinking more about the male reaction to this pressure and it’s significance — to individuals, to families, and even to nations.

So, what does it look like in it’s most basic form? Like this (watch clip below)

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Mark Vaught: Gatewood’s Plants

I was at a political rally in Somerset at the National Guard Armory.

It was the governor’s race in which Martha Wilkinson started but dropped out.  Ms.  Wilkinson provided a potted plant for a door prize.

As luck would have it, Gatewood won the plant.  He was outside and rushed in to accept the plant.

Someone yelled from the crowd, “Why don’t you give away one of your plants Gatewood?”, to which he promptly replied, “Mine are too expensive to give away.”

Kenny Fogle: Gatewood on Transportation Policy

I remember Gatewood attending a Transportation Forum in either 1995 or 1999 in Lexington and speaking to a large crowd of contractors, Transportation Cabinet employees and others. 

He said that he had a clear Transportation plan: for someone who had been ran out of towns in Kentucky as often as he had, he had better know every way out of town there was.

Greg Davis: Always a Gentleman

I will always remember Mr Galbraith with respect and admiration.

I first met him when I was an undergraduate at the University of Kentucky in the late 1970s, and we met again in 2010 when I was an expert witness in a trial during which he cross-examined me. He was thorough, incisive, of good humor, and a gentleman.

I will miss him and his particular brand of insights and the way he expressed them.

Betty Pace: R.I.P Good Friend

Betty Pace and Gatewood

R.I.P. GOOD FRIEND.
Gatewood was an author friend of mine and we had some good laughs together. I will miss him.
One time my daughter and I arrived in Dallas, Texas at our hotel. When finding out that we were from Kentucky, the doorman asked if we knew Gatewood.
“He’s a wonderful friend of mine,” the door man said.
He took his phone from his pocket and said,”Do you want to say hello to him?” I talked to Gatewood a few minutes. That made for wonderful service from this hotel while we were there.

Betty and the bus' driver

Gatewood’s bus was fully equipped with beds, table and chairs, bathroom and home site living.
Many times Gatewood would jump out of his bus in the middle of town, shake hands with onlookers and supporters.

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